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Exterior farmhouse
27-07-2012, 03:12 AM (This post was last modified: 27-07-2012 03:44 AM by handypainter.)
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Exterior farmhouse
Some of you may have seen the finished photo posted on Twitter yesterday, and due to the positive comments, thought i'd put some more pics on here just for the PPS members.

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This was a nice project, although the poxy weather tried its best to thwart proceedings sadguy The farmhouse was renovated about 6 years ago when the exterior render had been lightly mistcoated with white masonry paint, and then one coat of F&B masonry over the top Omgblink Its difficult to see in the first photo but what I first thought was black fungus, was actually the new render showing through where the paint had weathered off Omgblink

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In some places where the old render was still in place, it was quite porous. There were a lot of cracks and blown render here and there too. So I thought it best to prime the whole property first to get a good solid basecoat. Rather than faff about with a drop of stabilising solution here, and thinned masonry paint there, I decided to use the Owatrol E-B in the first coat.

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Glad I did, this stuff is awesome, and although i've used it before on the odd problem wall, on this job it really came into its own. It turned the F&B paint into an amazing problem solving primer basecoat. It went on like a dream on to each and every problem area.

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The next coat was without the E-B and that adhered beautifully to the first coat and also went on like a dream. After two coats the property looked finished and the owner thought we had. But as I wasn't really too sure of the F&B durability we gave it all a third coat, sod the expense £49 for 5 litres.

The homeowners are delighted and have given me some interior work for later on in the year. And although I couldn't persuade them to use something other than F&B for the exterior, I have managed to get them to change from F&B to Little Greene for the interior.

Edit: oh yeh, and I used Sikkens XD for the doors, lovely drop of gear which is now my go to gloss of choice.
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27-07-2012, 05:24 AM
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Great work, you need a close up of that door because Xd is the dogs .....

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handypainter (27-07-2012)
27-07-2012, 07:07 AM
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That my friend is the best exterior job ive seen so far this year,solid level job, wonderful.
How did you apply F/B ?
Roller or Spray ?
A credit to the trade mate...Brilliant good2

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27-07-2012, 07:25 AM
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Thanks guys and yes i'm hoping to get back down there for a shot of the doors now there cured Thumbsup

High praise indeed Chris Blush All applied by brush and roller (9" due to the uneven surfaces).

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27-07-2012, 01:04 PM
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Really great work mate 1. I do a lot of that type of house in this rural part of Ireland. With problems as you describe I use Santex Exterior Primer. Will defo give your method a go next time, if it ever stops raining Censored. Sounds like an additive to the paint, is that right? Whats the mix and does it effect coverage or finish?

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27-07-2012, 02:53 PM
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Thanks very much josephandson Smilie

Its pretty rural here too in north Cornwall where farmhouses, cottages and barn conversions in this sort of state, and worse, are the norm Nodyes

Yes you are absolutely right, E-B is an additive mixed in with the paint for the first coat only. Owatrol recommend anything from 25% to 50% E-B to paint depending on the problem.

We found that 25% worked well on exposed render and on the rest of the property we used 1 litre of E-B to 5 litres of paint, and a drop of water, which still improved the first coat coverage no end Smilie

It only affects the coverage for the better, and I know there are a few other PPS members who will agree with that. We didn't notice any difference in colour either. It also helped promote excellent adhesion for the second coat, and I mean it went on like a dream Nodyes Subbie Mark & I were both highly delighted with the results Nodyes

I know its not cheap but we must have saved nearly a day in labour Omgblink and i'm seriously thinking of adding it to all my masonry first coats Nodyes You can use it for other things too, such as mixing with emulsion to apply straight onto new plaster. Have a read here http://www.owatrol.com/index.php?langue=...owatrol-eb

Please bear in mind that these were my findings with Farrow & Ball Masonry Paint Winky

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27-07-2012, 03:21 PM
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That corner shot from the left of the cottage looks stunning, Al 1
E-B is a brilliant product and as has been said, has many uses with w/b masonry and emulsions.

Nice job!!!

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27-07-2012, 03:57 PM
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(27-07-2012 02:53 PM)handypainter Wrote:  Thanks very much josephandson Smilie

Its pretty rural here too in north Cornwall where farmhouses, cottages and barn conversions in this sort of state, and worse, are the norm Nodyes

Yes you are absolutely right, E-B is an additive mixed in with the paint for the first coat only. Owatrol recommend anything from 25% to 50% E-B to paint depending on the problem.

We found that 25% worked well on exposed render and on the rest of the property we used 1 litre of E-B to 5 litres of paint, and a drop of water, which still improved the first coat coverage no end Smilie

It only affects the coverage for the better, and I know there are a few other PPS members who will agree with that. We didn't notice any difference in colour either. It also helped promote excellent adhesion for the second coat, and I mean it went on like a dream Nodyes Subbie Mark & I were both highly delighted with the results Nodyes

I know its not cheap but we must have saved nearly a day in labour Omgblink and i'm seriously thinking of adding it to all my masonry first coats Nodyes You can use it for other things too, such as mixing with emulsion to apply straight onto new plaster. Have a read here http://www.owatrol.com/index.php?langue=...owatrol-eb

Please bear in mind that these were my findings with Farrow & Ball Masonry Paint Winky

Thats great info mate. Use mostly Santex and Dulux myself so will give it a go when it comes up and let you all know

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27-07-2012, 06:14 PM
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fantastic job al something to be proud ofNodyes

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27-07-2012, 09:00 PM
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Excellent workmanship and something to be proud of, a credit to the trade Smilie
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27-07-2012, 09:03 PM
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nice finish

eb is worth paying for as it can save money on mats and labour

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28-07-2012, 06:02 AM
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Dead right Mike, its a time saver, and so a money saver Nodyes Improves the coverage so less materials too.

By the way, its good to see you around here again Mike Smilie

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28-07-2012, 06:33 AM
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thanks

I still find it difficult to believe what I went through and I was there, I was talkin toa mate the other day about this and he reminded me I dont do things by halves, if im going to have a crisis it has to be the mother of all crisis or not at all

I have learnt a lot ffrom the experiance and now talk to people about my feelings,I messed some jobs up cos my head was in a bad place and I haave to accept and live with that. on the upside mtb is back, in the last 4 weeks I have redeced a large warehouse, a 2 bed flat and a 2 bed bungalow, all of them complete redecs right through, no external on the flaat but feature walls in every room

the town council have put me on their tender list, they wanted 56 bollards redone by 9 aug but I havent the time but I am doing the railings

so everything is on the up and going forward

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28-07-2012, 06:36 AM
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Good stuff Mike, sounds like you are in a very good place right now good2

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29-07-2012, 06:14 AM
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Great job,Ive been in the trade 36 years and still learning using the owatrol really worked will be giving that a try.
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